THE BILL GRUNDY INTERVIEW




Often misquoted, this is an accurate transcription of the interview which went out live on 1 December 1976.



The original Sex Pistols line-up are seated - from left to right as the camera sees them



-Johnny Rotten


-Steve Jones


-Glen Matlock


-Paul Cook



Bill Grundy sits to their left. Standing behind the Pistols are the punk hangers-on from the Bromley Contingent



-Siouxsie Sioux


-Steve Severin


-Simon Barker


-Simone



Grundy introduces the band to the cameras.



GRUNDY: (To camera) They are punk rockers. The new craze, they tell me. Their heroes? Not the nice, clean Rolling Stones... you see they are as drunk as I am... they are clean by comparison. They're a group called The Sex Pistols, and I am surrounded by all of them...



JONES: (Reading the autocue) In action!



GRUNDY: Just let us see The Sex Pistols in action. Come on kids...



[Film of The Sex Pistols in action is shown; then back to Grundy.]



GRUNDY: I am told that that group (hits his knee with sheaf of papers) have received forty thousand pounds from a record company. Doesn't that seem, er, to be slightly opposed to their anti-materialistic view of life?



MATLOCK: No, the more the merrier.



GRUNDY: Really?



MATLOCK: Oh yeah.



GRUNDY: Well tell me more then.



JONES: We've fuckin' spent it, ain't we?



GRUNDY: I don't know, have you?



MATLOCK: Yeah, it's all gone.



GRUNDY: Really?



JONES: Down the boozer.



GRUNDY: Really? Good Lord! Now I want to know one thing...



MATLOCK: What?



GRUNDY: Are you serious or are you just making me, trying to make me laugh?



MATLOCK: No, it's all gone. Gone.



GRUNDY: Really?



MATLOCK: Yeah.



GRUNDY: No, but I mean about what you're doing.



MATLOCK: Oh yeah.



GRUNDY: You are serious?



MATLOCK: Mmm.



GRUNDY: Beethoven, Mozart, Bach and Brahms have all died...



ROTTEN: They're all heroes of ours, ain't they?



GRUNDY: Really... what? What were you saying, sir?



ROTTEN: They're wonderful people.



GRUNDY: Are they?



ROTTEN: Oh yes! They really turn us on.



JONES: But they're dead!



GRUNDY: Well suppose they turn other people on?



ROTTEN: (Under his breath) That's just their tough shit.



GRUNDY: It's what?



ROTTEN: Nothing. A rude word. Next question.



GRUNDY: No, no, what was the rude word?



ROTTEN: Shit.



GRUNDY: Was it really? Good heavens, you frighten me to death.



ROTTEN: Oh alright, Siegfried...



GRUNDY: (Turning to those standing behind the band) What about you girls behind?



MATLOCK: He's like yer dad, inni, this geezer?



GRUNDY: Are you, er...



MATLOCK: Or your granddad.



GRUNDY: (To Sioux) Are you worried, or are you just enjoying yourself?



SIOUX: Enjoying myself.



GRUNDY: Are you?



SIOUX: Yeah.



GRUNDY: Ah, that's what I thought you were doing.



SIOUX: I always wanted to meet you.



GRUNDY: Did you really?



SIOUX: Yeah.



GRUNDY: We'll meet afterwards, shall we? (Sioux does a camp pout)



JONES: You dirty sod. You dirty old man!



GRUNDY: Well keep going, chief, keep going. Go on, you've got another five seconds. Say something outrageous.



JONES: You dirty bastard!



GRUNDY: Go on, again.



JONES: You dirty fucker! (Laughter from the group)



GRUNDY: What a clever boy!



JONES: What a fucking rotter.



GRUNDY: Well, that's it for tonight. The other rocker Eamonn, and I'm saying nothing else about him, will be back tomorrow. I'll be seeing you soon, I hope I'm not seeing you [the band] again. From me, though, goodnight.